MOC films

Dear Seamus and all,
Here at last is my response to Richard Tobin’s YouTube video. ‘I got quite a shock when I first saw this film. The pictures of Michael talking and eating took me back forty years in a flash. I am Sue, the young woman sitting between Michael and Elsa Gifford at the beginning of the film, and mentioned by name by Anna. I am pictured smiling and talking between 01.05 and 01.28; at 01.57 they are my hands with a single signet ring; between 06.28 and 06.35 folding or shaking some material; and at the end from 19.26 to 19.34. Neither of the women around 12.30 is me and I don’t know who they are nor the two women around 16.34. The woman with the black and white striped jumper and dark hair could be me! I did have a jumper like that, the hands could be mine but I have no recollection of the rings! If there is somebody out there who claims it is them I am happy to concede the identity! Happy times. Inspiring and stimulating’. Best wishes
Sue Proud originally Parnham

On 19/03/2012 23:47, Seamus O’Connell wrote:
> Dear all –
>
> This is a link to a couple of films about Michael on Richard Tobin’s YouTube site. You might have had the link already, but I did not want to pass it around until I had heard from Deri Morgan, Anna Gifford’s daughter, that she was happy that I should make use of her mother’s film. See the excerpted emails below. >
> http://www.youtube.com/JohnTobinPainter
> The black and white film is John Tobin’s, the colour film is Anna Gifford’s. >
> I have also sent this to the MOC blog. I shall now try to get the time to sort out the blog and the proposed MOC website. >
> Best wishes, Seamus
>
> From: “Deri ”
> Date: 19 March 2012 20:52:55 GMT
> To: “‘Seamus O’Connell'”
> Subject: RE: Anna Gifford / Michael O’Connell
>
> Hi Seamus
>
> Wow!! It was quite a shock to see my granny on film, I haven’t see her in > anything other than 2D for over 30 years! Obviously she was friends with > your dad. As far as I’m concerned you are welcome to put the film on your > website, I’m sure my sister will be fine about it too but I’ll forward your > email to her to read over anyway.
>
> I remember Anna talking about an Australian called Warwick but have no idea > how to contact him. I did think of someone who I can possibly find out more > from (about other people who may have been involved) so I’ll get in touch > with him.
>
> It’s a lovely little film and all seems totally familiar to me (very much > the kind of thing I remember growing up around) I’m going to send Hazel > (from the farmhouse) and my uncle John the link to you tube to see if they > have any more info that might help and so they can see Elsa (my granny) >
> I’ll get back in touch with any other info and I also may come to you for > advice when I get it together to do a proper website about my father. I wish > I had a film like this about my Dad.
>
> It was great to see. My mum’s voice was unrecognisable to me as she was so > young – until she laughed!
>
> Take care
>
> Deri
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Seamus O’Connell
> Date: 22 February 2012 22:36:52 GMT
> To: Dezza Morgan
> Subject: Re: Anna Gifford / Michael O’Connell
>
> Deri –
>
> Your mother’s film about my father has turned up. Or maybe one of two films > has turned up. What I had heard about was a film Anna made for or with > Anglia TV, which this does not seem to be. I did not get very far with > tracking down an Anglia TV film.
>
> This film was in the possession of Richard Tobin, son of John Tobin, who was > a good friend to Michael. He ran the art department at Ware College and > employed Michael to teach there. Richard also found a film John made about > Michael. He has had the two 16mm celluloid films digitised and has put them > on his YouTube site. Sue Parnham (as was then, Sue Proud now) who came up > with Anna’s name when I first started to look for the film is, I think, the > dark-haired girl who appears at the start of the film.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/JohnTobinPainter
> The black and white film is John Tobin’s, the colour film is Anna’s. >
> I would like to put the films on a website I’m planning to set up about > Michael. Would that be OK with you? I guess that you and your sister own the > copyright in your mother’s work, so I would need your permission. Copyright > gets very complicated, as you may know, and there are exceptions for ‘fair > use’, but I don’t think that covers putting a film on a biographical > website. In practice, unless you’re dealing with big-money stuff, I think > you can be relaxed about these issues but I don’t want to do anything with > your mother’s film unless you’re happy about it.
>
> The credits at start say that Anna made the film with the assistance of > Warwick Nieass. Do you know anything about him? Googling him suggests that > he is an artist and actor with Australian connections. Also do you know if > Anna would have had musician friends who might have done the music on the > sound track, at 6.40-7.40, 9.00-9.50, 11.15-12.25, and 17.10-19.25? They > would all also have a finger in the copyright pie, but maybe not enough to > be offended if I fail to contact them.
>
> For information, some links to do with Michael:
>
> MERL – Reading University’s Museum of English Rural Life:
> http://www.reading.ac.uk/merl/online_exhibitions/then_and_now/index.html >
> V&A – but most items cannot be viewed:
> http://collections.vam.ac.uk/search/?offset=0&limit=45&narrow=&extrasearch=& > q=michael+o%27connell&commit=Search&quality=0&objectnamesearch=&placesearch= > &after=&after-adbc=AD&before=&before-adbc=AD&namesearch=&materialsearch=&mns > earch=&locationsearch=
>
> National Gallery of Victoria:
> http://www.ngv.vic.gov.au/col/artist/7212?view=textview
>
> National Gallery of Australia in Canberra – but most items cannot be viewed: > http://cs.nga.gov.au/Search.cfm?CREIRN=20792&ORDER_SELECT=1&VIEW_SELECT=4 >
> Melbourne Books flyer for Harriet’s book:
> http://www.melbournebooks.com.au/uploads/8/0/1/2/8012093/moc_info.pdf >
> Bendigo Art Gallery exhibition:
> http://www.bendigoartgallery.com.au/Page/page.asp?Page_Id=293&h=0 >
> The Australian – review of Harriet’s book and the Bendigo exhibition: > http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/arts/in-search-of-the-lost-modernist-of > -design/story-e6frg8n6-1226204077027
>
> The Age – review of Harriet’s book and the Bendigo exhibition: > http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/art-and-design/lost-modernist-is-foun > d-anew-20111125-1ny4i.html
>
> Best wishes, Seamus
>
> On 24 Mar 2010, at 14:09, Dezza Morgan wrote:
>
> Hello Seamus, sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner, I’m totally up to my > eyeballs in work, I do the same work as Anna did and I have a youth theatre > production coming up after easter and two small children who take up every > second I have at home!
>
> Your friend has definitly got the right Anna Gifford from Bohemian Farmhouse > in Harlow! (Bubsy is Rhiannon by the way) Chris is not our father, Anna had > just married him a year before she died. My father was Tony Steele-Morgan > who Anna met in Newport collage of art. He probably would have been the best > person to ask about the film but unfortunatly he also passed away last > autumn.
>
> I’m sorry to tell you that she didn’t have a copy of it, I inherited > anything like that and I definitly didn’t come accross a film. Although it > does sound like the kind of thing she would do, she was into fabric > (printing, batik, embroidery etc) and she majored in film so I’d say it’s > worth continuing to look. I think your best bet would be to contact Newport > Collage of Art and ask them if they keep copies of such things. I think she > graduated from there in 73 as I’m sure she was pregnant with me the year she > did but it might be worth checking their records for a year either side just > to be sure.
>
> Hazel and Tina (same age as Anna) still live in one side of the farmhouse > (our family’s half was sold years ago when Elsa, Anna’s mum died) I don’t > think they’d be able to tell you any more but you never know, this is their > address – 50 Heron’s Wood, Little Parndon, Harlow, CM20 1RW >
> Good luck with your search, let me know if you find anything. >
> Take care
> Deri

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One Response to MOC films

  1. Warwick Nieass says:

    Hi Seamus
    I am Warwick Nieass from Anna’s film! If you or Deri want to get in contact with me drop me a mail on the email I provided and we can arrange to have a chat, not sure how much i can help you both but I am looking forward to hear from you.
    Kind regards,
    Warwick

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